Medizin Aktuell: From everything you have just said, we may assume that mathematics – in so far as that it refers to nature – would present itself differently in the various states of consciousness.

Peter Hübner: Yes, in the relative waking state of consciousness as well as in relative dream consciousness it would essentially restrict itself to the limited use of rational numbers.

Medizin Aktuell: The same as in our economic life.

Peter Hübner: Mathematics would not exist in deep sleep.

In the fourth main state of consciousness, it would be recognised as a cosmic phenomenon, and would essentially “restrict” itself to the irrational numbers and to the term of infinite.

In the fifth main state of consciousness this kind of mathematics of the fourth main state of consciousness would be recognised as an illusion, and now mathematics would suddenly be carried by the element of dynamics as well as the universal – of which that mathematics of the fourth main state of consciousness would only present an unreal projection.

The same would apply to all other sciences: in every state of consciousness these sciences would have a different face and would be carried by completely different theories.

The phase of the development of the first three main states of consciousness could perhaps be compared to the early embryonic phase. And just as there are nations and times with high infant mortality, there are quite obviously also times with a poorly developed consciousness, and regarding our modern civilisation with its mere first three main states of consciousness, this is such an embryonic phase of the development of mankind which by design is fundamentally cosmic.

Medizin Aktuell: But the present-day situation of natural science, striving for incorruptible objective knowledge, has at least one great advantage: that its representatives – or at least the great ones among them – are not kidding themselves, and keep verifying new discoveries and truths step by step in a scientific and objective manner.

Peter Hübner: In my opinion, that is the reason for being able to trust them most of all, and assume that they will verify further main states of consciousness – one after the other – in a scientifically objective way, and thus the approach into the cosmic worlds will become a field of scientific contemplation.

In so far, modern science will probably spare us from superstition in these areas, and bring closer to us the honest truth about creation and its background.

Medizin Aktuell: And during this cognitive process, modern science will probably again deprive all those of power, who wish to prevent this – be it because of outward hunger for power or avarice.